Mrsvetsare Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 verkar som ingen har intresse eller fattar vem denna man är Har iallafall försökt att informera er om detta söker upp annat folk i andra forum då mvh Mrsvetsare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffe Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Jag har sett den farbrorns film "TIG Welding Basics" :) Tyvärr ej översatt till svenska men han talar långsamt och enkelt så tillochmed jag förstod det mesta.... Kul ploj där på slutet när han svetsade ihop vanlig aluminiumfolie ifrån köket ;) Toffe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borken Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Du får ha lite tålamod, man kan inte kasta ut en fråga och förvänta sig att man får hundratals positiva svar på mindre än ett dygn. Jag tror säkert att många känner till Covell men det finns ju andra skickliga nissar också. http://www.allshops.org/ http://www.metalmeet.com/ Jag tror säkert att många är intresserade av Covells kurser också, kommer han själv till sverige? Dock tror jag att många (mig inräknad) på rak arm antar att kurserna kostar tokmycket, kanske en 5-6 papp per dag (Lazzes kurser ligger väl där nånstans). För ett företag är det ju en baggis, men för en privatperson är det sura pengar. /Janne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsvetsare Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) detta svar fick jag av covell I'd probably need a minimum of 15 people for two days to make a weekend workshop worthwhile In the US, I charge $190 per person per day - Out of the US, I normally charge $160 (1071 Kronor). detta är väl inte allt för dyrt va?? och detta är lazze pris Härmed anmäls följande personer till Lazzes 3-dagarsutbildning i avancerat bilplåtslageri. Kursplats (samtliga kurser): TIDAHOLM. Steg 1-kurser hålles måndag-onsdag, Steg 2-kurser måndag-fredag. Kurstider: Dag 1 och 2: Kl. 08:00 - 17:00. Dag 3: Kl. 08:00 - 16:00. Kursavgift/person och dag oavsett steg: Företag: 2.050:- Privatperson: 1.665:-. Kursmaterial samt för- och eftermiddagskaffe men ej lunch ingår i kursavgiften. Moms tillkommer. Anmälan bekräftas skriftligt så fort denna anmälan kommit oss tillhanda. Välj när Du/Ni önskar deltaga och fyll i övriga uppgifter nedan: Edited September 18, 2007 by Arrowsmith Onödig citering av inlägget direkt ovanför. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsvetsare Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) och jag tror nog covell är lite duktigare än lazze Edited September 18, 2007 by Arrowsmith Onödig citering av inlägget direkt ovanför. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borken Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Hmm 2 papp för lazzes kurser, då måste jag komma ihåg fel. Eller också har han sänkt priserna. Visst för en tusenlapp-elvahundra så kommer jag gärna och lyssnar. Fast då vill jag se en kursplan först. Vem som är duktigast känns ganska irrelevant. /Janne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsvetsare Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) menar inte på det viset=duktigast menar att corvell har nog lite mera kunskap om allt möjligt inom metal arbeten som inte lasse har och sen är ju inte lasse själv på plats och undervisar i sverige :( Jag har köpt corvells dvd om olika byggen m,m och är mkt nöjd väntar på svar av han med olika frågor ang kursen och återkommer senare med svar åt er Mvh Mrsvetsare Edited September 18, 2007 by Arrowsmith Onödig citering av inlägget direkt ovanför. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arrowsmith Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 P.G.A. att du nu startat ännu en ny tråd i en annan avdelning angående samma ämne som du gjorde en cross-posting av på tre olika ställen i vårt forum igår, så låser vi den andra tråden och hoppas att det räcker med en tråd härdanefter. Länk till den gamla stängda tråden Och sedan kan du sluta citera när du svarar på det sista inlägget i en tråd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsvetsare Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) okej ber så mkt om ursäkt då Edited September 18, 2007 by Arrowsmith Ännu en onödig citering av inlägget direkt ovanför igen !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsvetsare Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) covell vill gärna komma hit och behöver veta följande han behöver en lokal med maskiner i typ Tigsvets,gas,engelskt hjul,sickmaskin,krymp och sträck, samt allt annats som man bör ha i en verkstad ,wc ,vatten och kunna ta in ca 15 personer den som kan ställa upp med detta får kursen gratis/ så är det någon som kan ställa upp med detta så hör av er vet någon om man som ute ifrån (usa)måste lägga på moms/momsbeskatta när man håller föredrag/kurser?? Edited September 18, 2007 by Mrsvetsare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 han pratar väl bara Engelska och det är inte alltid så lätt att hänga med i fackspråket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toffe Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Pratar han lika långsamt och tydligt som i filmerna så är det ganska lätt ändå..... säger jag som bara har skolengelska för 30 år sen :s Toffe ps filmerna kan rekomenderas om än lite sömniga..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsvetsare Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 han pratar bara engelska men man förstår allt han säger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsvetsare Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 Allt detta undervisar han på sina kurser 2 dagar Beginning Steel Workshop Brief discussion of metallurgy Discussion of types of steel used for auto body work, and appropriate thicknesses Discussion of hand tools used for auto body work, the different kinds of hammers and dollies In-depth discussion of the ways hammers and dollies can be used: on-dolly vs. off-dolly Demonstration of the hammerforming process - fabricating a '39 Ford grille bar Demonstration of hole filling, including welding and metalfinishing Demonstration of dent straightening and metalfinishing Demonstration of metal shaping Small patch panel demonstration, including welding, planishing, and metalfinishing Demonstration of heat shrinking Demonstration of the English Wheel Beginning Aluminum Workshop Discussion of the different alloys of aluminum and their working properties Discussion of temper for both heat-treatable and non heat-treatable alloys Discussion of the different thicknesses of aluminum used for different applications Hammerforming demonstration, involving the use of heat Riveting demonstration Making a small rectangular tank with rounded edges. Some seams will be TIG welded, some will be oxyacetylene welded. Making a small scoop, using mallet and sandbag shaping, hammer and dolly planishing, and metalfinishing. Demonstrating the English Wheel on Aluminum. Advanced Steel Workshop The project usually constructed in this workshop is the rear fender for a '34 Ford. We start with a discussion of how to best position the divisions between the pieces, keeping ease fabrication in mind, then patterns are made. Steel panels are cut from the patterns, then shaped. Shaping with a mallet and sandbag is shown first, then the panel is smoothed with a hammer and dolly. Next, the English wheel is utilized for forming and smoothing panels. After the panels are formed, they are welded together, and the welds are finished. Next, the wire and bead are added to the edge of the fender, and the last step is to start the metal finishing process. Advanced Aluminum Workshop We will make one side of a midget race car tail piece - this is a '60's style midget with a raised headrest. The part will be patterned, and aluminum pieces will be cut for the panels. The side piece is formed first, and the edge of the panel is annealed to ease the shaping. A process is shown to create the shape using only hand tools, then the English wheel is used to speed the process. Once the side is formed, the headrest is patterned, cut out, and annealed. A mallet and sandbag is used for the rough forming of the headrest, then the part is smoothed on the English wheel. The headrest is welded to the side panel, the weld is smoothed, and we will start the metalfinishing process. This is a generic outline that describes most advanced workshops. In reality, each workshop is different, because once people start asking questions, I may change the planned demonstrations to better match the interests of the group - the workshop format is a very interactive process. Bucks & Forms We will demonstrate several different types of bucks, and the processes used for creating each type. A male and female hammerform will be demonstrated, using materials like metal, plastic body filler, and Medium Density Fiberboard (MDF). A station buck will be made, using either plywood or MDF - this is perhaps the most common style of buck. We will show how the proper contours are determined, how the stations are cut and fitted, and the simplest and fastest way to join them together. A wireform buck is demonstrated next. This style of construction is not as widely used as wood products, but it is very well suited for large panels with lots of changes of contour, and it is very quick and easy to modify. We will discuss some alternate methods of making bucks and forms, including clay, foam, and paper mache! Custom Grilles The first demonstration will be of a round-bar, oval shaped, midget race car style of grille. We will work with the perimeter first, discussing some different options for making this part. Once the perimeter is completed, we will work on the bars. We will determine the curvature and spacing required for the bars, and make a form for bending the bars in a uniform manner. A reference mark is made on each bar, then they are bent in the fixture, then trimmed to fit the perimeter. Simple fixtures are made to insure the spacing and alignment of each bar - essential to making a quality grille! The next demonstration is making a rectangular-bar grille for a '32 Ford. We will shape the perimeter first, using simple bending techniques, and fit this 'band' into the grille shell. A simple fixture is made to put a 'curl' on the end of each grille bar, and a process is shown for fitting and aligning each part. Several bars will be fitted to each of these grilles, but there is not enough time in the day to complete them. Last, we will look at some alternate ways of making custom grilles, using donuts, streamline tubing, oval tubing, and hammerformed sheet metal parts. This is a generic outline that describes most Bucks, Forms, and Grilles workshops. In reality, each workshop is different, because once people start asking questions, I may change the planned demonstrations to better match the interests of the group - the workshop format is a very interactive process. Motorcycle Fender The goal of this workshop is to make an Indian-style fender from steel. We discuss how you determine the number of pieces to make the fender from, and where the divisions between the pieces should be placed to ease the fabrication process. Patterns are made, transferred to steel sheet, and cut out. The side pieces are shaped first, and given a gentle all-over dome. We show how to do this with simple hand tools, or with the English wheel. Next, the distinctive step is rolled into the edge of the fender sides, and the outer edge is curled. The bottom edge is hemmed for strength, and to give the edge a finished appearance. The center part of the fender is roughed out with a mallet and sandbag, and a portion is smoothed with a slap hammer. Once we have demonstrated that smoothing is possible with hand tools, the English wheel is used to complete the shaping and smoothing. Next, the panels are tack-welded together, the joints are 'tuned-up' with a hammer and dolly, and they are finish welded. The last step is to complete the hemmed edge across the front and rear edge of the fender, and start the metalfinishing process. Motorcycle Gas Tank We will make a 'comma', or 'kidney bean' shaped custom tank from aluminum. We discuss the pros and cons of making a form or buck to work over, and the options for patterning the part. The side panels are cut out, annealed, and rough-shaped with a mallet and sandbag. Smoothing is demonstrated with a slap hammer and dolly, and with the English wheel. When the tank sides are properly shaped, a pattern is made for the tank top, and an aluminum panel is trimmed to size. This panel is annealed, shaped, and fitted to the tank sides, then tack-welded into place. After tacking, the joints are 'tuned-up' with a hammer and dolly, then finish welded. With the bottom still open, the top welded joints are worked with a hammer and dolly, and we will start the metalfinishing process. Due to time limitations, it is unlikely the entire tank will be metalfinished. If time permits, the bottom panel of the tank will be patterned, shaped, tack-welded, tuned-up, and finish welded. We will discuss how the tunnel is shaped and fitted into the tank, and the proper way to mount an aluminum tank, to help avoid the perils of stress cracks. Working with Tubing Tubing is one of the most versatile materials used for automotive and motorcycle projects. In this workshop we’ll look at ways to bend, join, taper, and flare tubing, all the way from the tiny tubing used for brake lines, to tubing large enough to make roll bars for cars, with special emphasis on exhaust systems and headers. Some of the planned demonstrations for the workshop are: Working with brake line tubing – cutting, bending, flaring Freehand bending of small diameter tubing Cold bending over a form Hot free bending Hot bending over a form Hot bending sand-packed tubing Bending square tubing Working with U bends Tapering tubing Making headers Hammerforming Workshop Hammerforms, or ‘form blocks’ are a very versatile metalforming technique. A shape is created from some dense material – usually wood, metal, or plastic, and a piece of sheetmetal is clamped over the block, and hammered until the metal takes on the form of the block. It’s a great way to make parts with accuracy, especially if multiple parts are needed. Some of the planned demonstrations are: Using a hammerform to make an automobile grille bar from sheetmetal Making and using a wooden male hammerform Making and using a metal male hammerform Making and using an open-bottom female hammerform Making and using a solid-bottomed female hammerform Using hammerforms with heat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) Det måste vara en jävligt ytlig kurs om man ska hinna med allt detta. Angående fackspråk! Du borde kanske kolla med facket först, dom kanske har börjat med samma stil som facket i USA kör med. Då är det kört din snubbe hur duktig han än är! Polarn fick stanna på IKEA i USA för han var den ända som kunde laga smorgasbord och steka kottbullar men högsta hönset fick åka hem för chefa, det kunde dom själva. LOL! När vi turnerar där så får vi bara gå brevid och titta på när deras tekniker gör allt jobbet! Dubbel-lol! Dags att statuera exempel! Edited September 18, 2007 by Drake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Borken Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Ja hur fan ska man hinna ens en tiondel av det uppräknade? Hmm :unsure: /Janne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 Speciellt om han nu pratar så långsamt så att ALLA förstår! :o Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eslöv Posted September 18, 2007 Share Posted September 18, 2007 (edited) covell vill gärna komma hit och behöver veta följandehan behöver en lokal med maskiner i typ Tigsvets,gas,engelskt hjul,sickmaskin,krymp och sträck, samt allt annats som man bör ha i en verkstad ,wc ,vatten och kunna ta in ca 15 personer den som kan ställa upp med detta får kursen gratis/ så är det någon som kan ställa upp med detta så hör av er vet någon om man som ute ifrån (usa)måste lägga på moms/momsbeskatta när man håller föredrag/kurser?? Skulle ni eller han nu hitta en verkstad med allt detta i så tror jag inte man stänger ner sitt vanliga arbete för att spara ca 1000 kr per dag o gå kursen gratis. förlorar ganska mycket mer på det. Tror det är svårt att hitta någon i vårt land som har allt som näms (alla maskiner o verktyg) bara för hobby bruk på en o samma plats. o de som jobbar med det är nog inte så intreserade. Vet bara en som har allt detta i mina trakter o han skulle aldrig låta någon annan röra hans grejor för någon annan ska visa hur det går till. Edited September 18, 2007 by eslöv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsvetsare Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 detta var det han sa till mig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsvetsare Posted September 18, 2007 Author Share Posted September 18, 2007 Det måste vara en jävligt ytlig kurs om man ska hinna med allt detta. Angående fackspråk! Du borde kanske kolla med facket först, dom kanske har börjat med samma stil som facket i USA kör med. Då är det kört din snubbe hur duktig han än är! Polarn fick stanna på IKEA i USA för han var den ända som kunde laga smorgasbord och steka kottbullar men högsta hönset fick åka hem för chefa, det kunde dom själva. LOL! När vi turnerar där så får vi bara gå brevid och titta på när deras tekniker gör allt jobbet! Dubbel-lol! Dags att statuera exempel! lungt skall kolla upp detta, tror nog att det inte är så stora problem som du beskriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsvetsare Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 (edited) pratade med han och det blev lite missförstånd mellan oss han tar en avdelning i dessa kurser varje dag och man kan välja själv vad man vill att han skal lära ut Beginning Steel Workshop Brief discussion of metallurgy Discussion of types of steel used for auto body work, and appropriate thicknesses Discussion of hand tools used for auto body work, the different kinds of hammers and dollies In-depth discussion of the ways hammers and dollies can be used: on-dolly vs. off-dolly Demonstration of the hammerforming process - fabricating a '39 Ford grille bar Demonstration of hole filling, including welding and metalfinishing Demonstration of dent straightening and metalfinishing Demonstration of metal shaping Small patch panel demonstration, including welding, planishing, and metalfinishing Demonstration of heat shrinking Demonstration of the English Wheel Beginning Aluminum Workshop Discussion of the different alloys of aluminum and their working properties Discussion of temper for both heat-treatable and non heat-treatable alloys Discussion of the different thicknesses of aluminum used for different applications Hammerforming demonstration, involving the use of heat Riveting demonstration Making a small rectangular tank with rounded edges. Some seams will be TIG welded, some will be oxyacetylene welded. Making a small scoop, using mallet and sandbag shaping, hammer and dolly planishing, and metalfinishing. Demonstrating the English Wheel on Aluminum. Advanced Steel Workshop The project usually constructed in this workshop is the rear fender for a '34 Ford. We start with a discussion of how to best position the divisions between the pieces, keeping ease fabrication in mind, then patterns are made. Steel panels are cut from the patterns, then shaped. Shaping with a mallet and sandbag is shown first, then the panel is smoothed with a hammer and dolly. Next, the English wheel is utilized for forming and smoothing panels. After the panels are formed, they are welded together, and the welds are finished. Next, the wire and bead are added to the edge of the fender, and the last step is to start the metal finishing process. Advanced Aluminum Workshop We will make one side of a midget race car tail piece - this is a '60's style midget with a raised headrest. The part will be patterned, and aluminum pieces will be cut for the panels. The side piece is formed first, and the edge of the panel is annealed to ease the shaping. A process is shown to create the shape using only hand tools, then the English wheel is used to speed the process. Once the side is formed, the headrest is patterned, cut out, and annealed. A mallet and sandbag is used for the rough forming of the headrest, then the part is smoothed on the English wheel. The headrest is welded to the side panel, the weld is smoothed, and we will start the metalfinishing process. This is a generic outline that describes most advanced workshops. In reality, each workshop is different, because once people start asking questions, I may change the planned demonstrations to better match the interests of the group - the workshop format is a very interactive process. Bucks & Forms We will demonstrate several different types of bucks, and the processes used for creating each type. A male and female hammerform will be demonstrated, using materials like metal, plastic body filler, and Medium Density Fiberboard (MDF). A station buck will be made, using either plywood or MDF - this is perhaps the most common style of buck. We will show how the proper contours are determined, how the stations are cut and fitted, and the simplest and fastest way to join them together. A wireform buck is demonstrated next. This style of construction is not as widely used as wood products, but it is very well suited for large panels with lots of changes of contour, and it is very quick and easy to modify. We will discuss some alternate methods of making bucks and forms, including clay, foam, and paper mache! Custom Grilles The first demonstration will be of a round-bar, oval shaped, midget race car style of grille. We will work with the perimeter first, discussing some different options for making this part. Once the perimeter is completed, we will work on the bars. We will determine the curvature and spacing required for the bars, and make a form for bending the bars in a uniform manner. A reference mark is made on each bar, then they are bent in the fixture, then trimmed to fit the perimeter. Simple fixtures are made to insure the spacing and alignment of each bar - essential to making a quality grille! The next demonstration is making a rectangular-bar grille for a '32 Ford. We will shape the perimeter first, using simple bending techniques, and fit this 'band' into the grille shell. A simple fixture is made to put a 'curl' on the end of each grille bar, and a process is shown for fitting and aligning each part. Several bars will be fitted to each of these grilles, but there is not enough time in the day to complete them. Last, we will look at some alternate ways of making custom grilles, using donuts, streamline tubing, oval tubing, and hammerformed sheet metal parts. This is a generic outline that describes most Bucks, Forms, and Grilles workshops. In reality, each workshop is different, because once people start asking questions, I may change the planned demonstrations to better match the interests of the group - the workshop format is a very interactive process. Motorcycle Fender The goal of this workshop is to make an Indian-style fender from steel. We discuss how you determine the number of pieces to make the fender from, and where the divisions between the pieces should be placed to ease the fabrication process. Patterns are made, transferred to steel sheet, and cut out. The side pieces are shaped first, and given a gentle all-over dome. We show how to do this with simple hand tools, or with the English wheel. Next, the distinctive step is rolled into the edge of the fender sides, and the outer edge is curled. The bottom edge is hemmed for strength, and to give the edge a finished appearance. The center part of the fender is roughed out with a mallet and sandbag, and a portion is smoothed with a slap hammer. Once we have demonstrated that smoothing is possible with hand tools, the English wheel is used to complete the shaping and smoothing. Next, the panels are tack-welded together, the joints are 'tuned-up' with a hammer and dolly, and they are finish welded. The last step is to complete the hemmed edge across the front and rear edge of the fender, and start the metalfinishing process. Motorcycle Gas Tank We will make a 'comma', or 'kidney bean' shaped custom tank from aluminum. We discuss the pros and cons of making a form or buck to work over, and the options for patterning the part. The side panels are cut out, annealed, and rough-shaped with a mallet and sandbag. Smoothing is demonstrated with a slap hammer and dolly, and with the English wheel. When the tank sides are properly shaped, a pattern is made for the tank top, and an aluminum panel is trimmed to size. This panel is annealed, shaped, and fitted to the tank sides, then tack-welded into place. After tacking, the joints are 'tuned-up' with a hammer and dolly, then finish welded. With the bottom still open, the top welded joints are worked with a hammer and dolly, and we will start the metalfinishing process. Due to time limitations, it is unlikely the entire tank will be metalfinished. If time permits, the bottom panel of the tank will be patterned, shaped, tack-welded, tuned-up, and finish welded. We will discuss how the tunnel is shaped and fitted into the tank, and the proper way to mount an aluminum tank, to help avoid the perils of stress cracks. Working with Tubing Tubing is one of the most versatile materials used for automotive and motorcycle projects. In this workshop we’ll look at ways to bend, join, taper, and flare tubing, all the way from the tiny tubing used for brake lines, to tubing large enough to make roll bars for cars, with special emphasis on exhaust systems and headers. Some of the planned demonstrations for the workshop are: Working with brake line tubing – cutting, bending, flaring Freehand bending of small diameter tubing Cold bending over a form Hot free bending Hot bending over a form Hot bending sand-packed tubing Bending square tubing Working with U bends Tapering tubing Making headers Hammerforming Workshop Hammerforms, or ‘form blocks’ are a very versatile metalforming technique. A shape is created from some dense material – usually wood, metal, or plastic, and a piece of sheetmetal is clamped over the block, and hammered until the metal takes on the form of the block. It’s a great way to make parts with accuracy, especially if multiple parts are needed. Some of the planned demonstrations are: Using a hammerform to make an automobile grille bar from sheetmetal Making and using a wooden male hammerform Making and using a metal male hammerform Making and using an open-bottom female hammerform Making and using a solid-bottomed female hammerform Using hammerforms with heat Edited September 19, 2007 by Mrsvetsare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrsvetsare Posted September 19, 2007 Author Share Posted September 19, 2007 (edited) Tog kontakt med ett stort företag här i sverige ang Ron`s kurs och min ide och dom nappade direkt och ställer upp med maskiner och bostad åt Ron samt fixar alla hans papper/moms kursen kommer sättas upp nästa år Edited September 19, 2007 by Mrsvetsare Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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